Friday, June 24, 2005

Rove, You're Goin' Down

The bulk of this I did not write. Credit goes to Shakespeare's Sister, who rocks the house for the Big Brass Alliance. My comments are in yellow. Read it; get busy. Light those phones lines up. Who the hell is Karl Rove to think he can get away, on public media, with calling half the county unpatriotic. This man is a delusional Machiavellian.

ROAR!! Force his resignation.

Wednesday night on Hardball, guest host David Gregory asked Karl Rove about the Downing Street documents. The following is the relevant exchange:

GREGORY: As you well know, critics of this war have seized on what’s being called now the Downing Street Memo, based on meetings that Britain’s Chief of Intelligence had with American officials about the war. One issue that comes up in that memo and subsequent memos is British concerns about the fact that the White House in their view wasn’t adequately thinking about what happens after the regime falls.

ROVE: I'm glad you brought that up because I want to put that in context. First of all that is the British — a Brit making a comment about what he perceived to be U.S. policy. But remember the time frame, it is months and months and months before the balloon goes up in Iraq. And in those intervening months there was plenty of time planning for post-war efforts, vast amounts of planning. You never know exactly how a war is going to plan out. Napoleon once said, 'vast numbers of refugees enormous problems with food aid'- did not happen. Vast uprising- didn't happen. That we would see a vast uprising by hundreds of thousands of Iraqis- didn’t happen. War is ugly, but a lot went very well with this effort and in part it was because the United States government and our coalition partners used the months to plan for any eventuality.

GREGORY: But if you're talking about the number of troops necessary, the level of American casualties, the force and intensity of the insurgency…did the president mislead the American people about the cost of the war or was he just simply surprised by what happened?

ROVE: I would go back to the president’s statements over the last several years and I would defy you to find one speech which he talked about Iraq where he doesn’t say there would be difficult times ahead, that we had a long road to hope that a great deal of sacrifice was going to be called for by both the American people and by the Iraqis to achieve this goal. Look, we do not underestimate the ferocity and the anger and the viciousness of the people that we face. We are in a war. Some people may treat it as a law enforcement matter and be worried about indictments from the U.S. attorney from the southern district of New York. But we recognize this administration and the American people we are in a war and the only way you have a successful outcome in the war is to aim for a complete and total victory, which is exactly what we’re doing.

Clearly, he used questions about the Downing Street Documents to set himself up for his comments made in a speech Wednesday night.

"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers," Rove said Wednesday night. "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

Today, the RNC issued talking points in support of Rove’s statement, in addition to an attack ad against Dick Durbin based on his Gitmo comments.

We need to get on this big time, because this is their defensive play—deflect all interest in the Downing Street Documents by some controversy and forcing the Dems (and liberals of all stripes) to defend themselves…again.

Call this out for the subterfuge that it is. Demand Rove’s resignation. Don’t let them detract from this major issue with their usual disingenuous B.S. Draw the clear link between trying to refocus away from the Downing Street Documents. This is their last line of defense. Don’t let it work.

It's me again. Makes me think Downing Street has them scared. Don't let them us the war as a wedge. We all know we must fund and clean up our mess. We also know we do NOT have to submit to failed leadership. "We the People" is US. We need to haul these horses in before they break America's wagon. Back to Shakespeare's Sister:

Also, Cheney has responded to questions about the Downing Street Documents:

Cheney said he had not read the so-called "Downing Street memo," a document written by a British official in the fall of 2002 suggesting that President Bush had already decided to remove Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, and that U.S. officials were over hyping intelligence about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction to build support for the policy.

However, the vice president said the premise of the memo -- that a decision to go to war had been made months before the March 2003 invasion -- was "wrong."

"Remember what happened after the supposed memo was written. We went to the United Nations. We got a unanimous vote out of the Security Council for a resolution calling on Saddam Hussein to come clean," he said.

This response is, of course, utter crap. Considering the Memos indicate that going to the UN and backing Saddam into a corner would help “sell” the war, this hardly passes as a defense. He's basically trying to discredit the memos by saying, "How could they be true? We did exactly what they said we were planning to do." Illogical garbage. Call him out on it.

I'm baaack. If Cheney hasn't read the memo, he's irresponsible. If he did, he's a liar. Neither are qualities befitting second in line for the Presidency. I think Washington is scrambling. They know how deep the rabbit hole goes, and it's bad. Keep pushing on them. You fight the nastiest when cornered and I believe this administration knows it's in danger of going down. Continue everything you're doing. Email the media. Call and email your representatives. Urge them to convene a hearing with both parties attending, to investigate the DSM. Demand Rove's apology and resignation.

And if you write -- WRITE!


At June 24, 2005 6:30 AM, Blogger frstlymil said...

I have started an annoyance campaign with all news affiliates, blasting them for their non-coverage of this, while covering Lindsay Lohan's family troubles instead. - Daily. They may dismiss them entirely - but if enough of us do that, perhaps it'll kick something into gear.

At June 24, 2005 8:15 AM, Blogger PATCAM2005 said...

Finger-pointing, something we did in kindergarden. How come all responses coming from big dogs in the white house are in the form of a fingerpointing distraction (to themselves) from the question?

New question, differnt subject, what's with the blogshares? How much money you makin' off me, lol?

At June 24, 2005 8:38 AM, Blogger Jet said...

Frstlyml, you go girl! Annoy the hell out of them!

Patcam, not enough $$! lol
Blogshares is like a blog stock market. You buy and sell shares of blogs to make B$. It's pretty fun. I'm hoping Cut Copy and Paste will make me a pile. ;-D

On topic, they try to distract because we are getting too close. Don't stop now.

At June 24, 2005 7:58 PM, Blogger Brother Kenya said...

Boy, you have no idea how mad I am about this issue! Or maybe you do. (Yes, I'm sure you do.) When those guys declare half the citezenry to be traitors, shit, do we have a mess to clean up!

At June 24, 2005 8:09 PM, Blogger Enigma America said...

Niccolos wouldn't have been that delusional, it takes a fat guy to be so delusional. Karl Rove is Peter Griffin with the brains of Stewie and the mannerisms of Brian.

I'm sick, I am a Family guy fan that relates everything to the TV Show.

At June 25, 2005 7:47 AM, Blogger Jet said...

Oh, Brother Kenya, fully functional rage barely does it justice. That fat ball of ear wax has damaged my country and dares call me traitor. He needs to be expunged.

Enigma America, welcome! Delusional? Check. Brains of Stewie? Check. Rove deserves everything he gets.

At June 25, 2005 1:36 PM, Blogger Unadulterated Underdog said...

Republicans believe it's ok for THEM to lie with rhetoric but when Democrats use rhetoric it's a cause for outrage. Has anyone else noticed this set of double standards? I don't agree with everything the Democratic Party does but I could never be a Republican. Republicans set too many double standards, they take the side of big business too often and they rely on rhetoric far too often. Anyone who condones Karl Rove's rhetoric shouldn't be taken seriously. His bs rhetoric is like that of a snake in the grass and is at least as bad if not much worse than the crap Howard Dean says. How can Republicans condemn rhetoric one day, say we need to end rhetoric in politics the next day and then condone their own rhetoric the following day?

At June 25, 2005 3:43 PM, Blogger Enigma America said...

All Democrats should quit talking. That way, all the moronic Republicans can expose their moronic qualities to the press.

Wait, they own the press. Nevermind.....

At June 25, 2005 6:32 PM, Blogger Jet said...

Joseph, they seem to think their rhetoric doesn't stick to them, and if they holler enough about ours, it creates an exploitable situation. Pretty, eh?

Say it with me, Enigma:

"What Liberal Media?"


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